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Original post by Landfish
Pos-modernism is a backlash. It''s right about some things, but it tries to be a little too right to compensate for the 50+ years before hand.
Postodernism tries to break the stranglehold of judgement wrt what art is and is not. Once upon a time, the (mostly European) upper crust / intelligencia dictated what was and wasn''t art. Now we''ve had a kind of democratic backlash that puts velvet Elvis paintings right next to the Little Boy Blue.
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By your logic, many of my favorite movies cannot exist. These movies teach me, they are funny, they get me to relax, but they are also serious, scary, and they are ART.
Heh, here''s postmodernism in the way again.
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Not sure what art is to you, but art
moves me and enlightens me on a deep level. Entertainment does not.
When I watch a documentary on the African slave trade, or the annihilation of Jews in Europe, I am not entertained. I am deeply moved, disturbed, and connected to humanity in a way I can''t describe. But when I watch the Matrix or the Terminator, there''s no place for these emotions. In fact, they get in the way.
Perhaps it is different for you.
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Just because something is spiritaully enriching or educational, doesn''t mean you didn''t have fun doing it. Viewing art can be fun. Hearing Art can be fun.
There''s a difference here that needs highlighted: Things can be fun, but this doesn''t automatically make them a game. Sex is fun. Swimming is fun. Driving fast is fun. This doesn''t automatically make these activities a game.
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A game is fun. There''s no more to it than that.
I''m afraid that''s far too simplistic. True, fun is the core, but our debate is more of an issue of how you go about getting to that core.
Art can get you to fun. But the path it takes-- particularly when it comes to meaning, emotion, and authorship of the reciever''s experience-- is in strong conflict with that of a game. The paths may in some places cross and intertwine, but they''re mostly parallel.
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