The only reson that we see games or anything else the way we do is because of the way that our sensory organs detect events. eyes detect visible light where ears detect audio waves. thats pretty easy. BUt all of these organs talk to the brain over your central nervous system. They do this by sending electrical signals that are read buy the nerves and converted to chamical reaction that eventually control your reaction. No one sensor alone can totally imerse you however. Although it is not totally the sensors as im sure all of you have at one point or another had a dream that was so real that you could swear that it was. IN a sense, what we want to do is create unconcious software that taps into our unconcious thought processes. that would work in theoy but since you are not concious, well that is a fuck up waiting to happen.

Complete sensory imersion is a technology that the military is developing to further densify the melding of man and machine though thought patterns instead of physical actions. By tapping into the data path that runs along your central sensory nerve, you basically have the ability to send images, sound and other things directly to the brain instead of relying on moniters and stuff. Temperarily bypassing any impulse coming from another imput. Basically, your eyes, ears and thouch sensors are bypassed and data is sent directly. This could also be used in an asycronis pattern to detect reaction impulses that are ment for muscle action and reaction.

Basically this is where virtual reality is going.we arent going to be fucking around with goggles and headphones later down the road, we will be actully diving into real artificial worlds. the only problem is with the safty risk. The human mind tends to go into shock when it senses danger. A wrong move in a shooter where you get your leg blown off could result in a pulminary failior and you would die. games will inevitably become far too real but I guess that is the fun of it to a certain extent isnt it. a game is not really all that fun unless their is the possibility of losing is it

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Nanami Jinii;El-hazard

Actually, I''m predicting that within 2 years or so, we''ll see the polygon counts for detailed models drastically DROPPING, in favour of some VERY ingenious texture mapping. If you guys are patient, I''ll put up a demo of the technique one of these days.


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...so.. if we are worried aobut computing speed... why no jsut send the data over a neral conneciton to the brain and allow the brain to render it....

"Why does my life have to be so hard in every world?"

Nanami Jinii;El-hazard

yes, i agree with everything you''re saying Fantasy edge, but what i''m trying to get at is. what is the RAW DATA? something in a computer or something in the external world?

what i''m wondering is, what do you mean by this statement,

"so the only way to create true to life 3d is to tap directly into the sensory nerve."

how can it be TRUE TO LIFE if it''s data from a computer? i would think the only TRUE TO LIFE is the actual external world that you currently exist in. if the world were from any other source, it wouldn''t be TRUE TO LIFE, would it?

however, if you intended this statement to mean to make a VIRTUAL world FEEL real, then yes, i understand. this is exactly "the matrix." however, nothing can be more true to life than the actual life youre living now.

a2k

well what im getting at.... assume the computer has a basica set of rules. ie story line, character stuff like that. your mind is actully creating the game not the computer, the computer is just an interface and tell your mind what to create. does this make more sense? basically your mind is creatin an artificial world based on computer data.

"Why does my life have to be so hard in every world?"

Nanami Jinii;El-hazard

to assume pure atomic programming would be not really possible but atomic surfacing wuld work. it would be a form of texture mapping but it would use textured atoms instead of triangles. who knows.

"Why does my life have to be so hard in every world?"

Nanami Jinii;El-hazard

actually, tomas, it IS possible to get good-looking objects/scenes with just 3d modelling. that''s why the discussion led into atomic structured code and so forth. so, it''s POSSIBLE, but it''s just by far, not practical for today''s super computers, even.

in fact, it''d look even BETTER than texture mapping just because everything in the scene would be rendered in 3d, no 2d surfaces, which is how this world is made anyway. if you think about it, yes, it''s possible. just not practical.

a2k

Practicality is certainly an issuse but I actully think that atomic surfacing would run faster in some cases. instead of loading massive texture files, you load a library of textured atoms. its still texture mapping of sorts but each atom is textured a certain color and they are only 1 pixel. the instead of applying a texture on triangles, you place these atomic variables across the surface in an organized pattern. the code would make the texture, not the image and the code would be able to munipulate the atoms to make objects deviate from their models. who knows, this could be where true 3d efects begin.

"Why does my life have to be so hard in every world?"

Nanami Jinii;El-hazard