"Well, in my game, you won''t be fighting 5 enemies at once and live. How the hell are you going to do that if it''s realistic? "

It''s not impossible, its all circumstantial though. If the terrain is in your favor you could do it, if you have element of surprise you might do it, if they suck ass and you rule you could do it, if you have a machine gun and they all have bare fists and no cover you could do it, but it depends on how the game is set up too.

But you''re right, in a ''fair'' fight (not really fair if its 1 vs 5) where the terrain is even, there''s no surprises, equal skills and weapons, etc. then the one guy would never stand a chance.However, I think it would be dumb to remove the possibility of winning against all odds ( isn''t that what makes a good action/adventure hero? even if it is unrealistic ) since that would be equally unrealistic.

quote: Original post by CrankDude

However, I think it would be dumb to remove the possibility of winning against all odds ( isn''t that what makes a good action/adventure hero? even if it is unrealistic ) since that would be equally unrealistic.

It depends completely upon the context of the game. If a game is supposed to be realistic, then it should be as much as it fits into the theme of the game. If a game is supposed to be unrealistic and fantasized, then making the hero be unrealistically powerful is just fine as long as it fits into the theme of the game. Dammit, I feel like I am spouting the words of the Landfish here.





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back to the practice thing real quick. Bushido Blade used a one-on-one battle just like the regular game, only with wooden weapons. That was the only difference, the weapons looked wooden. Other than that, the players still spurted blood when they got hit. I think a training session shouldn't exactly be a normal fight, I think it should be a chance to try to work on combos and fight when you want to.

Okay then, what else were we talking about. Alright, yes, I like the idea of armor and shields. But blocking with a shield is much different than blocking or parrying with your weapon. When you block with a shield, you're looking to stop the weapon cold. When you block with your sword, you do much the same thing, but you also push it off of you. When you parry you are basically trying to push the attack off to the side instead of stopping it. Blocking with your weapon should take the most strength, blocking with your shield should be slower to execute (to justify the difference in difficulty in use) and parrying should be really easy. Weapon blocking should never knock a ranged weapon out of the air, your only chance would have to be your shield or sidestepping. Also, there is dodging the attack completely, but only real fast characters can do this.

Also, what if you have two identical characters, with identical weapons, armor, stats, etc. and they throw the same attack at the same time (happens a lot more than you think, just play Bushido Blade and you'll see) and they lock swords. In Bushido BLade all you could do was engage in a pushing match. What if instead you could kick and punch and head butt to try and overpower your enemy?

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Edited by - MadKeithV on October 24, 2000 2:56:25 AM

quote: Original post by capn_midnight

back to the practice thing real quick. Bushido Blade used a one-on-one battle just like the regular game, only with wooden weapons. That was the only difference, the weapons looked wooden. Other than that, the players still spurted blood when they got hit. I think a training session shouldn''t exactly be a normal fight, I think it should be a chance to try to work on combos and fight when you want to.

Sounds like Bushido Blade really thought of almost everything

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Okay then, what else were we talking about. Alright, yes, I like the idea of armor and shields. But blocking with a shield is much different than blocking or parrying with your weapon. When you block with a shield, you''re looking to stop the weapon cold. When you block with your sword, you do much the same thing, but you also push it off of you. When you parry you are basically trying to push the attack off to the side instead of stopping it. Blocking with your weapon should take the most strength, blocking with your shield should be slower to execute (to justify the difference in difficulty in use) and parrying should be really easy. Weapon blocking should never knock a ranged weapon out of the air, your only chance would have to be your shield or sidestepping. Also, there is dodging the attack completely, but only real fast characters can do this.

Interesting points. They all make perfect sense to me too thanks for the info.

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Also, what if you have two identical characters, with identical weapons, armor, stats, etc. and they throw the same attack at the same time (happens a lot more than you think, just play Bushido Blade and you''ll see) and they lock swords. In Bushido BLade all you could do was engage in a pushing match. What if instead you could kick and punch and head butt to try and overpower your enemy?

I was thinking of this idea too...I think that the people who made Bushido were reading my mind hehe....




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You know, it truelly is a great game. There need to be more games like it.
There was also a character in the game that had a gun (he was one of the bosses, you could unlock him for the two player mode). At first, he is nearly impossible to beat, but once you figure out a trick (the fact that he can''t hit a moving target and doesn''t move very well and quits when his legs are taken out) then he is very difficult to win with.
In the game there was a code of honor, called Bushido, that restricted you from fighting unfairly, i.e. attacking when someone was down or when there back was turned or attacking while the person was still talking and not ready to fight. It really made the game that much harder (but not too hard).
I love this game. I play it all the time. It''s 5 yrs old, but who cares. I kick major ass at it. I can beat the game with any of the characters with any of the weapons.

Yeah, I like that lack of life meter thing



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Perhaps, at the beginning of battles, your character could be in ''block mode,'' where he simply blocks all of the enemy''s moves. Then, the player could study what the enemy does before attacking. That was just a little thought, and I probably had more to elaborate on it with... But you people can do that yourselves. What a great topic!

You might also be able to take advantage of a rythm that they get into. Arutha gets into a fight in ''A darkness at sethanon'' and whoops the guys butt because his enemy got into a comfortable rythm. Could be cool to implement such into a game

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